There will not be a public beta for Adobe Flash CS5
Posted by admin in Adobe CS5 Future plans, Adobe Flash CS5Dec 17th, 2009 | 22 responses
Adobe is no longer planning to release a public beta of Adobe Flash Professional CS5. This is a change from the plan that announced in October at Adobe MAX 2009.
Since the original announcement we have seen a ton of interest in Adobe Flash Professional CS5 and the included Packager for iPhone. Developers in the pre-release program continue to provide great feedback and take advantage of the new features. We’ve also seen a number of new applications built using ActionScript 3 and delivered to the App Store.
We are changing our plans in reaction to this strong positive feedback. We want to make sure that we can provide the earliest possible delivery of the final software to the large number of designers and developers interested in Flash Professional CS5 and the included Packager for iPhone.
We understand that some people will be disappointed. Many of us were looking forward to a beta. But in the end, we think that what is most important is to get the release version completed and in your hands as quickly as possible.
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when is the release of flash pro cs5 then?
Meh.
Just make sure you include it in the Web Premium equivalent upgrade! I haven’t heard any word of those packed upgrades, but I’m hoping for one that includes:
Flash Pro, Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator and Fireworks.
Adobe is seeing dollar signs hence they aren’t wasting time beta testing to the masses but a select few so lets hope the few selected catch as many bugs as they can or you just as well wait for the patches a few months later.
No beta release? C`mon, how are you going to provide quiality? It is the single most important thing that has always been missing from Adobe producs. Bug free applications.
Decision to release CS5 without public beta release is very dissapointing.
Although I would say that for me, Adobe software is 94% stable out of the box and patched up, it is a rather sad fact that after a patch or 2, the product usually isn’t touched from that point out.
I’ve had issues in Dreamweaver CS3 that result in constant crashes, however Photoshop CS3X is about 98.5% stable for me.
After Effects CS4 can be either way some days, but the fact remains that once these programs are out, Adobe isn’t ever really big on patching them up; and a beta would have provided some VERY valuable feedback.
Adobe, please at least do us a promise of providing over the top post-release patching to make up for no betas. I love me some Adobe goodness.
Still can’t wait for CS5; there’s been so little news of it.
I’m surmising from this that the CS5 release is going to be quite soon. Which is annoying, because I desperately want to buy a Design suite, but don’t want a repeat of what happened with CS2.
Let me elaborate: I had Photoshop CS2 bought for me because I demanded it when I started a full-time web job.
What was in my inbox *the next day*? Adobe’s announcement that CS3 was released and available for purchase.
Obviously it hadn’t even occurred to me to check if a new release was upcoming, but to be in a situation where I literally could have waited a day and got a whole new version for the same money, was an experience I don’t want to repeat
So I’m hoping they will offer some kind of CS4-with-free-upgrade-to-CS5 deal so they can keep up sales prior to the new release.
CS4 was buggy enough, you need to release a beta so some bug exterminators can kill the annoying bugs and possibly improve the reliability.
It is unclear from Adobe’s website what happens if I buy CS4 now. Is CS5 an “announced” upgrade? I would hate to buy now and then pay again in 6 weeks.
Adobe continues to make extremely poor decisions regarding the stability of their software. It’s unfortunate that they have lost the focus on quality and instead are focused on a good return for their investors.
I never upgraded to CS4 because of it’s lack of stability. It just didn’t perform. I guess I can expect the same of CS5. Sad.
Beta releases work out a lot of bugs, including security problems.
I hope Adobe isn’t making a classic and costly mistake, they have a great suite.
I think Flash CS5 will be similar as Flash CS4
(I didn’t watch the Video, I am lazy)
Yes I would agree. If Adobe wants to show that they really listen to their customers – why not a Beta of Flash CS5?
Flash CS5 will be utterly dire, I’d bet they’re spending all their time making that iPhone crap thats just going to cause a torrent of sh*t for the App Store instead of fixing that motion editor failed abortion they did in CS4.
The more I use it, the less stable After Effects CS4 seems to be.
Adobe really needs to work on stability – a quick-to-crash application can ruin your reputation in no time.
What good is software with great features that falls apart on you every 15 minutes? Keep that QUALITY ASSURANCE, Adobe, especially considering the current economic state.
This is a bad call on Adobe…everyone was so excited about a beta and now, no beta…people would have worked on flash iphone games and Adobe would have a lock on that market until the release. Now the cs5 is coming out in April or OCT??? New software is available , UNITY IS FREE!!! Gamesalad is FREE. These are great packages…Oh Adobe why are you so dumb….
Agree with everyone on declining quality standards and bugginess but where else can we turn? Adobe knows they practically have a monopoly on creative tools/software and despite the consensus here, how many of you will be buying/using CS5 anyhow?
Just because there is no public beta does not mean Adobe will not have trial software available. And even though 30 days isn’t truly enough time to give new software a run for its money, you may be able to detect whether the stability in Adobe’s new software is out the door, and if so, simply don’t upgrade.
I’m eager to see PS/AI/FL/AE CS5 in action, but Adobe isn’t known for patching their software after release. You may get 1, MAYBE 2, but after that, unless you’re Acrobat, you’re done til next version.
With no public beta, your app stability has to be LEGENDARY to make up for what could have helped iron out the same bugs before retail release.
This blog is so rarely updated. It’s 2 months out and there’s next to no news/hype for CS5. I’m beginning to wonder if April will be the release month after all.
I can understand the urgency in getting the iPod wrapper into developers hands, and thus the decision to not allow a beta release to delay the final release. However, what is sorely missing from this announcement is a commitment to patch updates, which as others have noted, have been minimal in the past.
Of course, the only way a beta release would delay the final release would be if there’s already a long list of known issues–Adobe’s developers certainly don’t need to complicate matters with a barrage of bug reports. If they can clear the critical issues before it goes out the door, then we can regard the “final” release as a beta… providing Adobe makes that commitment to increased patch support. An announcement to that effect would probably ease the current situation, in my opinion.
Just a guess, but I think Apple has put/threatened a legal kibosh on Flash CS5’s intended thwarting of Apple’s stranglehold on iPhone development. Don’t forget that Flash support on the iPhone doesn’t exist because Apple doesn’t want the competition (and quite frankly, FP isn’t stable enough to meet Apple’s standards, as referenced in the multiple stability-related comments above).
Having been in software development for 20 years, this type of about-face on the Public Beta of Flash CS5 smells more of a legal battle than Adobe simply going back on their announcement of releasing a Public Beta.
Unfortunately, the corporate machines that run today’s world are seldom interested in what any of their customers want or need. Adobe has really sh*t the bed over the last few releases. If they were more interested in maintaining the creativity and innovative ideas that the Macromedia acquisition brought them, they’d be a helluva lot more attractive as a long-term industry leader. There must be some M$ flunkies loading the ranks, and squeezing every bit of money out of their products, instead of continuing to drive the market with creativity and innovation. That’s not to say that there aren’t amazing aspects/capabilities in their products, but they’ve simply gotten too big, and have too much of the Design/Dev tools market to give a crap about what the market actually wants.
As a 10+ year user of Flash, I’ve become more and more dismayed with their failure to make things easier for developers. AS3 has been a moving target from the beginning, and I don’t know of anyone who’s really looking forward to relearning ActionScript when AS4 arrives.
Frankly, I’m putting my efforts into iPhone native development and not relying on an “auto-magic” way to throw Flash content onto another platform. Cocoa/CocoaTouch development, while a bit different from AS3 efforts, has all the coolness, without all the guesswork, failed implementations and poor documentation.
Adobe’s continuously spiraling/declining attention to leading innovation and listening to the “1,000,000 Flash Developers” (their numbers, not mine) is an unfortunate by-product of their success.
Adobe told me if I purchase Cs4, I have 90 days grace to get a free upgrade to Cs5.. but they give no indication when it is coming. After reading the above, I think I will build another XP Machine and keep my CS3.
the arabic feature still NOT WORKING,it was not about selection,it was about showing the letters connecting to eachother,when you have tested the swf you will see that you are still treating the Arabic letters like English,you separate them from eachother,IN ARABIC NOO,no separation between letters in the same word,i was hoping that adobe would change this in CS5 coz to show arabic well we really waste alot of time ,but anyway i love the papervision and GTween,and i don’t know if u will include TweenLite or not,but i hope you will too,and at the end I LOVE ADOBE : )
On the new movie clip’s linkage property, choose to use it in Actionscript and ‘Export in First Frame’ must also be checked. Then, type in the package-class name of the UIComponent class you previously created where it asks for and Actionscript class. Click OK, then right click on your movie clip in the library, and choose ‘Component Definition’. You also need to identify the package-class name here. Once you click OK, you can return to the component definition to see that the public inspectable methods are now available for you to assign values via Flash’s Component Inspector, and Properties. You’ll also notice that the icon for the movie clip has changed to the icon for a component.