A Sneak peek into Adobe Photoshop CS5
Posted by admin in Adobe CS5 Future plans, Adobe Photoshop CS5Oct 9th, 2009 | 44 responses
The video shows a selection of features that are being developed by ‘Photoshop Labs’, including Painter-style brushes, a new warp tool and more.
The new brush tools aim to match that found within Corel’s Painter application. The video shows ‘wet’ paints being smudged, smeared and blended. It also shows an on-screen representation of the 3D properties of a brush, showing how it has been twisted to lay down different stroke types.
A similar system After Effects’ Puppet tool has been added to Photoshop CS5, enabling artists to warp image by placing pins into areas to lock them down, then moving the areas around them. An overlaid grid shows how the image is warped.
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Well, to be honest fake paint is fake paint. I’ve always thought that fractal design painter was a horrible tool, and really slow with it. The way that real paint behaves… the chaos, the complexity, that’s exactly why I use a computer. To get away from the mess, make it all scientifically precise, to do mathematical precision. If I want splatter, smudge etc, I’ll scan it in. I don’t like the look of digital paint, it’s tacky. It’s synthetic.
That new warp tool is the shiznit.
U know what features I want?
Resolution independent layers with auto and configurable interpolation. (smart objects aren’t good enough, and lock you out of editing in place)
Halftone view for print files.
Preview at output resolution.
Fractal interpolation.
Editing in place for smart objects (this ain’t easy) or at least live updating of preview without having to save (soft-save).
XML importing of content.
Server engine driven by XML which will run under linux (photoshop actions called from javascript… oooh that’d be sweet)
a better PNG encoding system.
many more sophisticated masking & selection tools, preferably non-destructive.
The ability to automatically branch in the history palette, creating a tree of edits.
Mmm, can I have a job?
As a Photoshop trainer the one thing I tell my students is to “get a 3rd party fractal interpolation software” so I agree with “da bishop”. Please could we have one built in?
I do however like the brush features although they will have to go a way still to take me away from Corel painter.
Control points – very useful.
uuh yeah, the warp tool is nice.
+1 for resolution independent layers, editing in place of smart objects, history tree
can’t you already call actions from javascript? or at least you can do everything an action does in javascript (then again an action export to JS would be nice)
As I only use the artists’ oils in Painter it’d be nice to see how efficient you guys’ implementation is as Corel Painter is extremely slow. Lately I’ve found myself just painting in Photoshop, and having the ability to mix on canvas would be quite the nice feature.
This is cosmetics, all this crap was already avalaible elsewhere. We need tools to work with, not that crapy stuff for newbies.
Yawn, just the puppet tool from After Effects ported in, all this will bring is more Photoshop Disasters as models are bent all over the place.
bloat bloat bloat bloat bloat
Does anyone know the tenative release date for CS5? I’ve heard everything from October this year through Xmass next year.
I Love the evolution of the warp tool. Should be very useful.
I paint a lot in photoshop. Blending with brushes would be a nice addition to the brush presets, but unless this is flushed out out to the extent Corel has done, I feel it will just frustrate people enough to want to jump all the way over to painter.
I really would like to see some effort given to streamlining brush selection, modification and organization. The Current preset manager and brushes menu is in some serious need of some love. I find myself using the Tool presets for all of my quick switching rather than having the awkward large brushes menu open.
I really like that adobe is trying to bring new technology in, but I feel there is almost no effort to refine the workflow of the systems already in place. A restructuring of the brush menus Tools like a color mixing board would be very nice. Or possible the ability to sort fonts into groups, tag them with meta data for quickly search though them (Labeling as sans serif, ect.)
/rant from hopeful photoshop drone
I really like the control points but can you expand on that idea and also bring in the bones tool like in Flash? Now that would really round out the features.
I agree with Chris on Oct 16th. I think that the Bushes menu is in serious need of work. Looks and feels outdated. It no longer fit with the CS4 workflow. Hopefully a redesign will be in with CS5.
I like the new features. Warp tool looks like fun. I am sure that the new pressure/blend brushes will be cool.I am sure Chris Orwig will have a great way to use them.
Hard to say if I will buy right away for just these 2 new features. A redesign of the Brush workflow would make CS5 a must buy…!
Go and use real paint you schmuck!
I know about 1/20th of what Photoshop has to offer and this means I’ll know 1/21st. I really see no reason for upgrading – they’re just looking to satisfy the 5% who dig this deep.
What I want is more dummy proof and intuitive interfaces for things like working with layers.
All you hard core types would hate it but it would open the world to us newbies.
For example: I learned how to use FotoFusion Album Designer in about 2 hours. A buddy has been working on his wedding album in Photoshop for months and I wrapped it up for him in 2 easy evenings. And no; Photoshop Elements is not for me – it sucks big time. I want the capability but easier.
I think I’ll go look at Corel’s lineup.
Sorry, it took a minute to realize what I really want in Photoshop.
I’m a wedding shooter and color is the biggest time looser in PP.
Currently; the quick fix is a color reference shot in the exact same light and shooting RAW. A photo of any known neutral works (black, white, gray) just so all 3 colors have the same value (like 255.255.255 or 0.0.0 or 128.128.128 or any other number.
I would like to take a single shot with a gray card AGAINST MY MAIN SUBJECTS OF THE EVENING and check their balance. So; the groom’s tie or shirt, bride’s dress, even skin tone of her right cheek.
Then; at any time I can click on THAT point with a pointer and Bingo, the rest of the photo snaps into a cooresponding balance that matches my initial reference.
It doesn’t have to be perfect. Right now it’s FAR from perfect on many circumstances.
Realize that, shooting across a church, I’ve seen the light color be vastly different is up to 4 sections of the same photo. The church’s overhead lighting mixes with the bounce off the ceiling mixed in with the stain glass windows mixed in with my flash. What a mess. My in-camera color meter doesn’t know what to make of it, particularly if I’m shooting off-center (often) and the center is on one of those stain glass walls.
Yip; if the true balance of the groom’s tie is 2.10.5 then let it be balanced as such no matter the light’s true color anywhere else in the room.
For that alone; I would even buy CS5 outright, forget upgrades!
Any idea when Photoshop CS5 will be released? I just bought CS4 because I switched to a MAC and am now worried about having spent the money only to have CS5 come out in January.
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ok, firstly, i have always loved and used adobe products…. as a business they are great! however, i am quite disappointed that after all the sacrifices i made to purchase master cs4, i get screwed because cs5 has more features, blah blah blah. real paint doesn’t interest me personally, but i am certain that when they do launch the final suite there will be many features i will want to use and need. and paying thousands even for an upgrade… it’s ridiculous! some of you may not agree with me, but this is how i feel about the whole thing.
YESSS! This new features are the best Ive seen in a long time. I’ve wanted photoshop to have the ability to blend colors for my digital paintings for a long time now, finally I can have it!
One thing that’s small, but I would love to see with PS CS5/X is that when you are placing an anchor point with the pen tool, you can hold SPACEBAR in the same way you can when creating a shape or making a selection and move the point while in “creating” mode on the fly.
Either way, I’ll be going from Web Premium CS3 to the equivalent in CS5 when it ships.
dear pro users let’s face it: adobe products will just get worse and worse. The company follows apple’s strategy to gather the mass using ridiculous flashy tricks, with no care of what a pro needs, at least steve jobs had the guts to say so back when OSX was released (that doesn’t make a crook lesser of course). Let us hope of a new company that cares for professionals to come up with a new industry standard. CS4 was a disaster (even greater than CS2) CS5 will probably just send us to a sanitarium.
Fabio. The last upgrade for the master collection was less than a thousand so it should be the same this time around. CS5 won’t be around untill at least april may next year in my opinion.
I am really looking forward to using the new paint feature which is one of the reasons I still use painter. I also hope to see a mixing palette which is in my opinion the best feature in painter. Also, I hope they improve and build upon the new 3d features, including fixing the many current bugs.
This interactive paint concept is as old as Corel Paint Shop Pro 10. It’s a gimmick; some users might like it but I think those higher end users (concept artists, for example) are used to managing their work flow without the need for a mixer palette. It doesn’t serve much of a purpose, apart from to demonstrate Photoshop CS5 has some more processing power.
The pen in 3D space doesn’t impress me much, because it doesn’t look like it’s achieving something a minor patch or small update couldn’t have done for CS4 Extended. It looks to me like they’ve added a bolt on to the brush settings panel which now changes the orientation of the pen, as opposed to doing something more impressive. Pressure was a good one, and perhaps this orientation thing is good by the same standard, but I don’t think it should be made into a big thing. Perhaps it should be a case of, “Oh by the way, we’ve gotten around to adding brush orientation as well!” It should have been included with pressure =D
Control points: fairly useful utility. Might make it easier to experiment with character design instead of having to redraw everything all the time =P
What was wrong with using the Perspective tools to clean things up? Doesn’t this just ADD to the work?
Aren’t they also releasing a method of defining vertical and horizontal lines to make rescaling an image more effective? Here’s a thought:
• My Casio ZX77 from 2006 can identify corners in a photograph, when an object is at a poor angle, and has the ability to automate a correction in perspective.
This is old technology, very old. What ever happened to using something similar as my Casio? Or improving on it? Making it more efficient?
Why does the term “polishing a turd” come to mind?
Having said all that, I do like what I’ve seen elsewhere about intelligently cleaning up photos, and accurate reshuffling of images. I like the interface that goes with identifying verticals and horizontals and cleaning up rescaling based on those points. Those are powerful tools. This, here, isn’t an example of a massive leap forwards.
In a way I think a feature they should add is for tabbed documents, where, if you move a document (to reorganise your work space) then it should constrain the moving tab to within a certain height as if snapped in location. Or hold shift to constrain tabs when moving left and right/up and down, depending on how people have their work flow.
Here’s another idea: instead of having two arrows pointing to the right which drop a menu, what about moving the list of tabbed documents to the left, to allow for faster, more intuitive browsing? If they eyes are on the tabs, let them stay on the tabs. Don’t introduce more drop downs which break the eyes’ focus. And if you are dragging an image from one document to another one hidden off the side of the screen (otherwise only accessible if you nudge your image document to the side of the intended new location), use the scrolling functionality to allow a user to keep the image selected, browse to the desired location document and let them drop it where they want it, instead of constantly having to hunt and break the flow. Make this seamless.
Recovery of documents on relaunch after a crash would be good. OpenOffice can do it, why can’t Photoshop start implementing this feature? “Save more frequently”? What if I do? What if, in between save points, I manage to achieve a lot, try to apply a layer style and Photoshop crashes?
Here’s one I SERIOUSLY want a fix for! The Bevel and Emboss layer style. If you apply this effect, and there’re Drop Shadows or Inner Shadows/Glows on other things, then changing the orientation of the Bevel and Emboss adversely affects these other independent effects. Please, for goodness sake, fix this annoying bug. Make all these effects’ properties independent of each other. That would be a really welcomed update.
Much like what’s been said above, don’t bother releasing CS5 unless it addresses – or goes a long way towards addressing – every single issue we have with CS4, otherwise Adobe’s just going to annoy people with poor quality gimmicks for a massive kick to the wallet.
High expectations for CS5, based on what I’ve seen elsewhere; don’t screw it up with childlike releases like “mixing paint on the screen LOMG”. Like we haven’t seen that before. If Adobe’s going to release this, it should totally refine the work flow.
It’d be really cool if there was support for multi-buttoned mice. At least 5 buttons would be good, and they don’t have to be necessary things. For example:
• 3D Objects’ orientations could be controlled using the 4 and 5th buttons.
• Clicking button 4 and 5 would scroll open documents left and right, so you can be working away and scrolling active documents at the same time, preparing to move a piece of work or image into a new area, ready for editing.
Greater intelligence around guides would be good, i.e. the ability to choose a vector guide or a raster guide. Sometimes it’s annoying to set up your guides and use the selection tool against it, only to find your selection is – for some reason – 1px above and to the side of the guide, despite visually looking like the guide is correct.
Just… clean this up, THEN move on. I can wait.
you know what ? your great , the photoshop just get better and better since CS2 , CS3 was great and CS4 is splendid … i love the way you guys develop this baby
hmm. the only thing that i think you guys should work on is the filters and things that help to make a frame or vignette or pasparto … thank you ANY way
Remove all the bloat !
3D feature isent needed !
Half of the toolset isent needed !
I have a brand spanking new QUAD CORE Imac and cs4 is still slow so what is wrong ????? the software or the user, I think we all know the answer to this !
Fix the bugs instead of adding more and more.
You people at Adobe should make a light version of photoshop that have “layer styles” “hue/color” settings basic cut out tools and better layer features nothing more beacuse the rest could be optional as plugins AND SOLD SEPERATLY !!!!!!!!!!!!
AN LIGHTWAY VERSION IS WHAT WE ALL WANT NOT MORE BLOAT !!!!!!
Its incredable how the team behind psd is trying to justify its exsistens by addding in more features that arent needed.
If I was boss at adobe I fire half the team and hire som new fresh crew with better ideas, as ADOBE PHOTOSHOP havent evovled in 3 years time it has only gone backwards.
And dont tell me you must have bad rigg at work and home or that I dont know anything about how software works.
I make my living building software, and as far as I feel you need to step back and stop reinveting the wheel psd can be good but YOU NEED TO STREAMLINE IT and listen to what is needed !!!
MrNick
I hope the real tools get updated, like burn, dodge, patch, heal, etc. They could use some new algorithms.
For the guy who said he wants something he can master in 30 minutes, may I suggest the Costco website? You can make an album and edit your photos online.
Photoshop isn’t an album maker. It’s an image post processor. You are on the right track using other software to do that. That’s what us professionals call “bloatware” and I hope Adobe never steps that low.
I also wish they would get over the paint brush thing. Just redo the interface and let other programs do art painting. Same for the stupid artist filters, like “water color.” Give me PHOTOGRAPHIC tools. Let people go elsewhere for Gimmicks like “emboss.” Yes, those were good or usable in the web graphics days, and they are holdovers from when Photoshop was catering to the web graphics people.
That was then this is now.
From what I understand Adobe (like the big camera makers) produces new versions of their products every 18 months or so. CS4 came out in the fall of 2008, so the Wikipedia date seems reasonable.
I just got an incredible deal on Corel Paint Shop Photo Pro X2, which was already way cheaper than CS4 and uses all the photoshop plugins just fine and has about 90% of the functions of CS4. So I’ll save up and get CS5 when it’s released next year.
So nothing special in PS CS5.
I’d rather want Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign, all together in one piece. I´m fed up by going from one to other, saving, importing etc. That is what will help my workflow.
Painter has the downright best painting tools available. Adobe PS comes pretty close in duplicating functionality, but with a whole lot more for the digital artist to have to set up initially for their optimized environment. Lest I say, even Corel does a better job at providing natural media brushes out of the box.
But hardly do I *ever* need natural media brushes. They are certainly nice to have and every professional tool ought to have them.
Give me better (less buggy) control over masks, quick masks, Viveza-style control points, and 64-bits on my Mac with 48GB of RAM, please.
Also, better selection tools and selection tool modal flows would be a huge productivity enhancer. Select Color Range > From Image | From Selection !?! C’mon Adobe: this is 2010 we can do better than that. Sub-selections ought to be easier to manage as well (yes you can add hard to manage and view masks) but some sort of pixel level tool on the primary art canvas would be really cool. A level of precedence for selections built up over time sort of tool. Next, if the Viveza engine is licensed and used it has to have the ability to re-shape and modigy selections from the generic circles in the latest versions.
Finally, filters. The current set of filters is handy at creating selections, doing subtle manipulations, etc., but really have no usefulness outside some esoteric scenarios. Since every filter is really a destructive edit to my document, I’d at least like to see some unique and useful filters in the next filter gallery. Or maybe even better tutorials on what’s there and how to leverage them for power users. (Not to warp my brother’s face in the last x-mas photo).
Finally, it’s basically imperative for Adobe to fix their half-baked unified UI model. We need UI panels that work as expected and designed on OS X as well as they work on Windows PCs. (Ever try n-Up views on a Mac?) Flash totally blows on the Mac, and everyone knows it. Simpler UI code that actually enhances workflow instead of pushing panels off into neverland, or worse — disappearing panels forever until an app restart?
What about intelligent font sourcing? So I’ve got Segoe UI installed on my Mac and my PC has SegoeUI installed. Shouldn’t the app be able to parse the font metrics to reconcile the discrepancy instead of telling me my font is missing?
OK. I’m looking forward to an upgrade, I just wish Adobe would consider designers and professionals first instead of bloated marketing hype for a 10-point bullet point press release.
Nothing here that would interest me. Graphic artists might get excited, but I’m a photographer.
A font management system is long overdue so I would rather see Adobe focusing on functionality and more advanced selection tools than gimmicks. A color mixing pallet would be handy as well.
Adobe Photoshop CS5 is really good! Can it work on Windows XP? Or it only work in Vista and 7?
I hope that Adobe Photoshop CS5 can get a stronger ability in color seperation
I am still of the school which I was taught in college: PhotoShop isn’t for illustrating or painting – it’s a digital darkroom for fine tuning photographs (hence the name).
How can Adobe not have a 64bit version at this point? Wait 6 more months for it while they fiddle round with this silliness? How about start with your 64 bit CS5 version, then work out this paint for a 5.1 release?! Who is driving this bus??
Jayson – too bad for you. Many, many artists worldwide is painting in Photoshop for years with excellent results. Is nobodys fault that you are still thinking with those categories. Well, maybe a little bit is fault of mediocre college…
CS5? It’s got nothing to do with new features or improving the software it is quite simply called in layman’s terms
“new money for old rope”..
Wake up you lot! Bigger, better, faster!!!???
A lot of good questions here, where are the answers? By the way, I had to upgrade to an Nvidea Quadro when CS4 came out that cost around 1800. I hope XP will work. If CS5 has improved compared to the upgrade from CS3 I will be happy.
I would like to know if CS5 will be out this Spring _Summer_Fall_or Winter? Anyone have a ball park guess?
I need to switch from PC to Mac and want the latest and greatest Photoshop program. I am currently running CS3.
Photoshop Cs5 should use all my processing piower not just 1 core out of 8 ! especially when saving files- takes too long
It should be 64 bit- also for Mac- so i can address as much as RAM as i need.
It should be a Cocoa program so it works better with Mac.
after that – go Painting!
For those looking for a cheaper PC solution, I have an i7 920, 8GB DDR3, Windows 7 64bit XPS from Dell, total price about $1,300 (monitor not included). PhotoShop CS4 (64 bit) Extended doesn’t slow down. Not one crash in about 2 months of use with Windows 7, same for Vista 64bit before the upgrade to Windows 7. Also, you might want to create virtual drives and have your applications run on them…that helps isolate the applications from the operating system. Your O/S does a lot of background work that might conflict with apps, and loading everything in C-drive increases fragmentation.
What I really need from PS CS5 are these two things:
1. A better anti-aliasing algorithms for small font sizes. Like those the browsers and OS use. Or at least an option in PS (or rather all the CS producs) preferences to use the operating system’s anti-aliasing.
2. A true radial gradient. Not the spherical one currently present in Photoshop.
You should definitely update the tools that are already there; like the brush, burn, dodge smooth, wand tools. Things that are good could always be better.
Some of these new things just seem like fillers. Like the 3D brush in the window, that seems as though it will just slow down Photoshop.
The new things are neat, but it would be cool to see new tools that help more with digital pictures made from scratch.
I second that Mark. Anti-aliasing for small text in Photoshop is horrendous. The only way to make it look good is to put a slight blur on it or typing it larger and then scaling down… both of which involve rasterizing the text layer.
Since we are on the topic of CS 5 how bout let’s have a way to highlight selections of text separate from on another. Say… if I have an ad and I want to highlight all the prices to change the font or if I want to highlight certain parts of a paragraph and change something about the font… it would be nice not to have to change them one by one but to highlight them all using “shift” to add additional highlights and then change the font, size, style, etc.
I would like to see HDR tone mapping tools akin to Photomatix. Photoshop is fantastic for aligning multiple exposures but is no where near the same standard as PhotoMatix when it comes to Tone Mapping. This should be looked into and a dedicated HDR feature included.
What I’d like to see is more of a “suite” of applications… Support of same files across different products (like Illustrator capable of opening PSD with vector smart objects) and cross-suite SVG support…
Also common preferences for each application, and same menu structure for all of them and same UI. Option to use same keyboard shortcuts for all programs by default and so on.